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marvz

What fallacy is this?

Posted on Social media using a clip comparing it to a newspaper headline, throws a question to create doubt, thus makes one conclude that what was said in the video is a lie.

Video: Government official, defending a senator before a news reporter that he is a rich man in their province. (which is a fact)
Newspaper: Headline: __________ The poorest Senator (newspaper is an opposition)
Clip: What happened? (from an opposition)

the intention of the one who post is to create tell the truth (for the opposition) or create doubt (for the loyalist) which ever
The outright reaction of a reader or viewer is either believe it or ignore it.

My question is what form of argument is this and what type of fallacy is this?

Thanks for the help? please enlighten me., thank you.

asked on Saturday, Sep 04, 2021 07:48:40 AM by marvz

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Lynx Ssss writes:

Doesn't seem like a fallacy, it seems like false information.

posted on Saturday, Sep 04, 2021 10:19:50 AM
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Shawn writes:

I would have to see the full clip in order to comment. It sounds a bit like cherry-picking  as well as the fallacy of avoiding the issue.  And deceptive sharing

posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 08:16:53 AM

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Bo Bennett, PhD
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I am having a difficult time following your post, but this part seems clear:

...throws a question to create doubt, thus makes one conclude that what was said in the video is a lie. 

There are two parts: 1) throwing the question in to create doubt and 2) others falling for it. #1 would be a manipulation technique. #2 would only qualify as a fallacy if it were presented in argument form and it matched one of the fallacies depending on the context. For example,

Claim: Vaccines are safe.
Question: Do you know how many people had died from taking the vaccine?
C. I guess they are not safe.

The problem here is both jumping to conclusions and perhaps an ambiguity fallacy (what is the acceptable death rate?)

Without a clear argument, we can just classify this as poor reasoning.

answered on Saturday, Sep 04, 2021 12:06:06 PM by Bo Bennett, PhD

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Lynx Ssss writes:

He says that in video it stated fact and in headlines it is false information I don't think this is fallacy rather than false information.

posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 01:06:06 AM
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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:
[To Lynx Ssss]

I don't see anywhere where he mentions false information.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 06:25:06 AM
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Lynx Ssss writes:

[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

 

Video: Government official, defending a senator before a news reporter that he is a rich man in their province. (which is a fact)

Newspaper: Headline: __________ The poorest Senator (newspaper is an opposition)

Clip: What happened? (from an oppositio n)

I think he was asking what type of fallacy is this it is probably false information because the news paper contradicts what the video says.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 09:49:36 AM
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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:
[To Lynx Ssss]

But he doesn't say the newspaper contradicts the video.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 09:55:20 AM
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Lynx Ssss writes:

[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

By contradict I mean assert the opposite of a statement made by someone and that's exactly false news or information newspaper gave. 

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 11:10:51 AM
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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:
[To Lynx Ssss]

Maybe this is a language problem, but the OP said nothing about an opposite statement being asserted. He used the work "opposition," which refers the one or more people or groups against the person about whom is being written/spoken.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 11:49:24 AM
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Lynx Ssss writes:
[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

Sorry my bad, I think this is false news because headlines doesn't state a fact but rather states an opposition and therefore this is false.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 09:56:02 PM
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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:
[To Lynx Ssss]

But it doesn't state an "opposition", the opposition is the one doing the stating. This has no bearing on the truth of the information. It could be different perspectives or, which is likely the case, the opposition is making it look as bad as possible without lying or presenting false information.

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Sep 06, 2021 08:36:34 AM
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Lynx Ssss writes:
[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

Isn't false information defined as presenting untrue statement?

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Sep 06, 2021 09:55:12 AM
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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:
[To Lynx Ssss]

Sure, but nobody said anything about untrue statements being presented 

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Sep 06, 2021 10:13:33 AM
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Lynx Ssss writes:
[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

Then this is using agruments which try to create doubt about the video just like, 

" Video: Joe biden is the president of america. (which is a fact)

Newspaper: Biden isn't the president because it is just haters of trump that say he is the president and they are paid. (which is opposition)."

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Sep 06, 2021 12:07:52 PM
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richard smith
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Does not seem like an argument there just an attempt to manipulate a person thoughts. Newspapers try to get people with the headlines to sell papers.

answered on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 09:22:13 AM by richard smith

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marvz writes:

Thanks to the responses, they are all appreciated and enlightening, Dr. Bo jumping to conclusion and ambiguity are the common fallacy used in my country especially in the political arena, ad hominem ranks number one.
Yes, politicians with their parties including newspaper, loyalist netizens and many are easily swayed by out right lie, misinformation, fake news and uneducated comments.
Yes, misinformation is rampant and use of fallacies and people simply took anything without critical and logical processing. Thank you Logically Fallacious this is big help.

posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 10:06:26 PM
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Lynx Ssss writes:
[To marvz]

Yeah, ambiguity fallacy is common among people like 

 “I rode a black horse in red pajamas,” 

Here "in red pajamas" defines the one who rode the horse not the horse.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Sep 05, 2021 10:32:59 PM