Is this an example of Mistaking the map for the territory ?
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Original Question
P1. We need to end this war now we need peace. The problem in Ukraine is the U.S refusal to try to find a peaceful solution and can’t see it from everybody’s perspective ?
P2. So what is your solution that all parties will accept ?
P1. My solution is that we need peace and we need to negotiate. Why should this violence continue why don’t we try to find a solution?
P2. Well they tried negotiating a solution in 2015 and nothing worked. Before the invasion when Putin built up on the border they tried to negotiate a solution and nothing worked. The first 3 months of all out war they literally tried negotiating and nothing worked. Why doesn’t Russia just leave the country and declare a ceasefire?
P1. Well Ukraine is saying it wants back all of its territory now continuing to instigate and push for further war and is refusing any kind of peace .
Would this be an example of “Reification” or the fallacy of misplaced concreteness . Taking the words “Peace” and “Negotiation” and using them in such an abstract way it ignores “what” you want too negotiate. Or what Peace even means in this scenario. To me Giving up a nations Land and Resources and forcing people to live in places they don’t want too for the sake of “Peace” with a knife to your throat is literal violence with a slice of Gaslighting too boot.
Answers
2Too many "moving parts" need definition and clarification before any meaningful analysis can take place.
Yes this is an example of reification or the fallacy of misplaced concreteness. Theyre using abstract concepts without defining what they mean in the specific context here
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