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Trying to understand Motte and Bailey, but the examples I've seen are rather lacking

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Original Question

I think this is more about the strong argument, weak argument style, though I may be wrong. Correct me if so.


Let A and B be two persons who disagree on X


Let Y be something A and B both agree upon


A asserts X and uses Y as evidence for X


B contradicts X


A asserts Y is true therefore X is true


 


So, in an example,


Let X be crystals meet the definition of life


Let Y be crystals grow and that they respond to external stimuli


A: Crystals meet the definition of life because they grow and respond to external stimuli


B: Crystals are not alive


A: But they grow and respond to external stimuli


 


The issue of course being that the definition of life was never established, it is merely asserted that Y is evidence of X.


 


Am I following down the right path? I do not find the articles I've pulled up on Motte and Bailey to be very concise in their explanation of the tactic.

Comments on Question

Check out this discussion we recently had on this: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/questions/tmIKpkV5/the_motteandbailey_fallacy.html I did research this and chose not to add it as a fallacy. Honestly, I cannot remember the exact reason why, but in general it wasn't a good match for one or more the criteria I list for fallacies.

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