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The Euthyphro Fallacy?This is an argument I have had with theists.
Theist: We know god is good because of the good things he has done. Me: But what about all the bad things he has done. Theist: God is good no matter what because goodness is defined by what god does. Me: If it is only possible for god to do good things, then it is pointless to use good things as proof that god is good. I have argued with many theists who at first argue that God is good because he did X or Y but when I press them with all the bad things god supposedly did in the bible they fall back on one reason, which I feel invalidates all the other reasons. If god is good even if he is the cause of the most awful things imaginable, then the most awful things imaginable prove that he is good. Saying god is good because he helped my grama recover from the flu is the same as saying god is good because he killed 50 million people in WW2. This is basically the Euthyphro Dilemma From www.philosophy-index.com/. . . The Euthyphro Dilemma is a philosophical problem concerned with a view of morality related to theism. The Euthyphro Dilemma asks: do the gods love good action because it is good, or is good action good because it is loved by the gods? The problem comes from Plato's Euthyphro, and is asked by Socrates to Euthyphro. So my question is: What fallacy is the assumption that god is good because everything he does is good? Question Begging? Furthermore what fallacy is a man committing if he believes that god is good both because he does good things and because he is good no matter what he does? Thanks |
asked on Monday, Sep 02, 2019 06:23:08 PM by noblenutria@gmail.com | |
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Alternative: God is good, and the bad things are done by someone else. Still circular, I guess, but solves your problem.
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answered on Monday, Sep 02, 2019 06:29:41 PM by Bill |
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This seems both Begging the Question and Biased Sample Fallacy.
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answered on Monday, Sep 02, 2019 07:05:22 PM by Steven Hobbs |
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What fallacy is the assumption that god is good because everything he does is good?
Furthermore what fallacy is a man committing if he believes that god is good both because he does good things and because he is good no matter what he does?
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answered on Tuesday, Sep 03, 2019 06:21:58 AM by Bo Bennett, PhD | |
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