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Dr. Bo's Criteria for Logical Fallacies:

  1. It must be an error in reasoning not a factual error.
  2. It must be commonly applied to an argument either in the form of the argument or in the interpretation of the argument.
  3. It must be deceptive in that it often fools the average adult.

Therefore, we will define a logical fallacy as a concept within argumentation that commonly leads to an error in reasoning due to the deceptive nature of its presentation. Logical fallacies can comprise fallacious arguments that contain one or more non-factual errors in their form or deceptive arguments that often lead to fallacious reasoning in their evaluation.

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Sat, Aug 17, 2019 - 12:42 PM

What is the logical fallacy that feminists commonly use to vandalize during protests?

Protestant reasoning is usually formulated as follows:

1. Person 1 states that protesting violently about a violent act that was committed against a woman is wrong.
2. Person 2 (who is the feminist who protests) states that violence is the only way the authorities can listen to them.



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Print Sat, Aug 17, 2019 - 01:07 PM
I suppose that the fallacy you're fishing for is that "Two Wrongs (Don't) Make a Right." But your question is quite loaded.

In any case, moral justifications can get very complicated. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor (violent act). US responded by declaring war (violent act). Was that wrong? Don't oversimplify complicated questions.


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Print Sat, Aug 17, 2019 - 01:19 PM
Let's remove any bias here and get to the heart of the question:

1. Person 1 states that protesting violently about a violent act that was committed is wrong.
2. The protester (person 2) states that violence is the only way the authorities can listen to them.

Person 1 is stating an opinion (unfalsifiable).
Person 2 is also stating an opinion, but one that is falsifiable. Non-violent protests have a history of effectiveness, so person 2's position is easier to argue against.

I see no fallacies.
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Print Sun, Aug 18, 2019 - 05:04 PM
There is no fallacy in the example itself, it's opinion. But the presenter is attempting a heavily bias Loaded/Leading/Complex Question fallacy.


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Print Mon, Aug 19, 2019 - 12:41 PM
Person 1 is expressing an opinion "violence is wrong" with a criticism of the "tu quoque" fallacy implied by 'fighting fire with fire' phrasing of the question.
Person 2 is using "special pleading" to justify 'fighting fire with fire', with the implied argument from ignorance "what else can one do"


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Denken Karvane
Monday, August 19, 2019 - 12:28:45 AM
Ok, thanks for the answers, everyone!

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