Is calling people racist racist?

One time I said that pewdiepie fans are racist. Then this one kid called me out and he said I was making a generalization that every single individual of his fan base is racist. According to him, this made me a hypothetical racist because I was discriminating against everyone in his fan base. This did not make any sense to me. First of all, I don’t think I was making a hasty generalization; I simply said “pewdiepie fans are racist”, not “all pewdiepie fans are racist”. Let me know if that counts as making a hasty generalization. He used a bunch of big words to sound smart but it didn’t make any sense whatsoever. Additionally, he said that I had no evidence to support my claim, which made my entire argument invalid. But I don’t understand why I need evidence. The evidence is so obvious because the fans can be seen harassing Indians for no reason many times. Also, can’t he just get off his fatass and find some evidence himself? Is he too lazy to do that? Also, I would like to know how much evidence you need to have a good argument. If you have more evidence than your opponent, does that make you win? Everything he said sounded completely illogical, but I just wanted to ask to make sure he is indeed a moron.

Is calling people racist racist?

No.

One time I said that pewdiepie fans are racist.

You were demonstrating prejudice , not racism. Sometimes, prejudging can be a decent heuristic. For example, if you said that KKK members were racist, you would almost certainly be right regarding every member of that group. However, KKK members are quite different than pewdiepie fans which makes your prejudice less justifiable.

I simply said 'pewdiepie fans are racist', not 'all pewdiepie fans are racist'. Let me know if that counts as making a hasty generalization.

Yes, I would argue it does if you don't have data to support the claim that "all" or "virtually all" are racist. Leaving out a qualifier implies "all" or at least "virtually all".

Additionally, he said that I had no evidence to support my claim, which made my entire argument invalid.

That would make your argument/claim unsupported, not necessarily invalid.

But I don’t understand why I need evidence.

You do understand why. You realize that anyone can claim anything and to know what is true or not, we need evidence for those claims.

The evidence is so obvious because the fans can be seen harassing Indians for no reason many times.

How many times? 3? 10? 50? How many fans does pewdiepie have? What percentage are displaying racism? What percentage of fans is this? It sounds like you have evidence that some fans display racist behavior, assuming they are harassing this group for no reason and they are not harrasing them for another reason independent of their race.

Also, can’t he just get off his fatass and find some evidence himself?

Assuming he does have a fat ass, then he probably could, but it sounds as if you are the one making the claim. This means that you have the burden of proof to provide evidence to support your claim; it is not up to others to provide evidence against your claim.

Also, I would like to know how much evidence you need to have a good argument.

The answer is the amount and quality of evidence that is sufficiently convincing to others.

If you have more evidence than your opponent, does that make you win?

No. This would be a form of the argument from ignorance . If you both have crappy evidence, but one of you has less crappy evidence, nobody has "won" because nobody is the wiser with the truth being discovered.

Everything he said sounded completely illogical, but I just wanted to ask to make sure he is indeed a moron.

His claim that your claim was "racist" was completely off, but his other comments seem fairly accurate.

Is he a moron? I can neither confirm nor deny that claim.

Excellent response, Dr. Bo!

Here is how I would respond: The very concept of race is an affront to science. Like theism, it is an obsolete mindset. Race, as a scientific concept, does not exist. Racism cannot exist because the idea itself is a fallacy, an illusion. Is there such a thing as unicornism? No. Why? Because unicorns ( as they’ve been popularized ) are not a reality, therefore they do not exist. (At least in our popular conception of them).

Science has shown that racism is an ignorant conception. There’s no such thing as race. Are people deluded en mass?

Yes, Indeed they are, And that can be proved.

I was going to reply with a long windy comment, but after reading Dr. Bo's comments, I really have nothing to add. His response is spot on.
I have no idea who or what a Pewdiepie is, so I can't really speak to whether it's fans are racist, but calling out a racist for being a racist does not make you a racist. But for the rest of your question, read Bo's answer....and then read it again, and probably again.

But I don’t understand why I need evidence. You would need evidence in a court of law if you accused somebody of something. This is really no different. In this country a person is innocent until proven guilty and you need evidence of that persons guilt to make your case. So you really can't go hurling accusations at people without something to support your claim. I know the president does that, but we're talking about normal people.

Also, can’t he just get off his fatass and find some evidence himself?
Because its not up to him to do your homework for you. You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you. Demonstrate for him and everyone else what makes your claim true. Why should anybody simply take your word on the matter? The size of his ass has nothing to do with the truth of your claim, and the ad hominem personal insult does nothing to support your claims.

"Racism cannot exist because the idea itself is a fallacy, an illusion."

I think there are a few minorities that might disagree with you on this. Discrimination based on somebody's race, is racist. I think it's hard for white people to recognize racism because they've never felt the force of it on the same level as minorities have. Being white, I never had to fight for the right to go to a school, eat at a restaurant, drink from any water fountain, vote in an election, live where I wanted. I didn't have to bleed or die for those things that white people take for granted. The black person must wonder how a white person can tell them that there is no such thing as racism. Racism isn’t simply using the “n” word. It’s the complete benefit of the doubt toward one group, and the total skepticism toward another. That probably holds true for most forms of discrimination.

Outside of certain geographic and medical applications our previous concept of "Race" is obsolete. If the concept of race is false, so then, is the term "racism". If there is no such thing as race, then "racism" itself is equally ignorant and invalid. What are we really talking about then? Skinism? Extreme ethno-culturalism? Xenophobism? Or, is it something we're all guilty of - generalism? Projecting upon and dehumanizing whole groups of one shared superficial characteristic -- not as individuals, but as an objectified abstract.

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It seems like a practical way of mitigating and eventually eliminating the scourge of "racism" -or organized misbeliefs and prejudices based on erroneous information. In the Iron Age these prejudices were institutionalized and preserved through various religious edicts, and no doubt served some evolutionary advantage. Judaism, and Hinduism, in particular, codified their tribal identities and class structures with specific ancestral requirements. In each, conversion was impossible, you were either born into your tribe or social stratum, or forget it. In Judaism, it was originally patrilineal and then switched to matrilineal at some point. In Hinduism, it was based on skin-color gradation from light to dark as determined by caste: Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, or Sudra.

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If race doesn't exist, then why is this jew is going on about wanting to destroy the European race, if race if races don't exist?

I think jews and all their friends who are looking to get rid of the European race are now trying to say that it doesn't exist, in an effort to try and stop European people to not to be bothered to produce more children with their own people, to stop them from being mixed out.

Anybody try to explain this?

Calling anyone a name instead of making a case for your pov is an ad hominem attack. These days, it has the probitive value of calling someone a nazi or a pederast etc., etc. The continuation of PC rhetoric depends on such words.

Such terms are meant to end discourse and by frequent (mis)use actually dilutes and soon destroys any real meaning.