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Jordan Pine

Spot the Fallacy: Anti-Asian Hate

I thought it might be fun and educational (with Dr. Bo's blessing, of course) to introduce a new game called "spot the fallacy." The idea is to take a current event, particularly a politicized one, and see if we can identify any logical fallacies in the thinking being expressed by the public figures (politicians, activists, journalists, blue checkmarks, etc.) who are talking about it.

My intent is for this to be a non-ideological and non-partisan exercise. That is, I would hope we can keep the game from devolving into partisan criticism of one side or the other. The point of the game is to train oneself to identify logical fallacies in the arguments we all hear every day. With that one rule in mind, I propose that anyone be allowed to start a new game using "Spot the Fallacy" in the question title (as I have done).

Below is how I envision a post for a new game looking, using a hot topic that has been on my mind of late.

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Example #1: "With the recent shooting at three spas in Atlanta, Georgia, in which eight women — six of whom were Asian — were killed, a similar dynamic appears to be at play, but on a significantly more serious scale. Days after the shooting, local law enforcement has yet to call this a hate crime ...

"The Atlanta killings come on the heels of a growing spate of anti-Asian attacks taking various forms...according to a study of police data released by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino, hate crimes against Asian Americans in 16 US cities rose 149% in 2020 over the previous year. New York City saw an alarming 833% rise during the same period."

(Source: "How are the Atlanta spa shootings NOT a hate crime?" Euny Hong, CNN Opinion)

Example #2: "Throughout the pandemic, former president Donald Trump often referred to COVID-19 as the 'Chinese virus' and 'kung flu.' He argued that the terms weren’t racist.

"A newly released report from Stop AAPI Hate found that there were at least 3,795 reported hate incidents that targeted Asian Americans from March 19, 2020 — soon after the pandemic was declared — to Feb. 28."

(Source:  "Joe Biden And Kamala Harris Condemned The 'Scapegoating' Of Asian Americans After The Shooting In Atlanta," Ryan Brooks, BuzzFeed)

Spot the fallacy.

asked on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2021 11:12:52 AM by Jordan Pine

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Shockwave writes:

I like your idea for the game. I believe that in this way - finding logical forms in words spoken in everyday life - we are actually learning to use the knowledge of logical errors for the purpose of better reasoning. I'm sorry that there are no more such things in schools, in the official education system.
Don't blame me for skipping the first round of your game, due to lack of time. I look forward to your answer that will help me understand a context unknown to me that I do not have time to explore and clarify on my own.

posted on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2021 10:11:43 PM
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Arlo writes:

I also like the idea.  It takes the potentially theoretical discussion of logic into practical situations.  In that way, we get to work at what Mr. Bloom would call a higher level and apply what we do to real-world situations.

posted on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2021 09:11:38 AM

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Bo Bennett, PhD
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You have my secular blessing :)

That is, I would hope we can keep the game from devolving into partisan criticism of one side or the other.

I would say that calling fallacious reasoning on one side is pretty much the same thing, and that's okay. Let's just do our best to stick to the fallacies and not the politics (although the line is sometimes blurred).

Example #1: the fact that this incident came "on the heels" of increased anti-Asian related crimes has no direct bearing on this crime. The crime should be evaluated on its own merits independent from other crimes. Just like if a five-year-old steals a lollypop at a local store, it doesn't make it more likely to be a hate crime given the environment. This could be an example of poisoning the well — priming the audience to accept this as a hate crime before evidence warrants that call.

Example #2: The implication here seems to be that Trump's rhetoric is at least partly responsible for the hate incidents. As a social psychologist, (in my professional opinion), I would say that is accurate given the power he has over his followers. While I don't agree his comments were "racist" in the classical use of the term, the insistence of calling it the "China Virus" is clearly focusing the blame on the Chinese people. Given the ignorance of many Americans who can't tell the difference between Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc., it becomes an issue of race—anger and hatred toward an entire race.

What would be interesting to see is how anti-Asian crimes have increased in other parts of the world since the pandemic, in relationship to the USA. While Trump had global influence, the influence is strongest in the USA. If the percentage increase was greatest in the USA, then this would be strong evidence that his rhetoric was responsible, at least to the degree warranted by the difference in percentage increase between USA and other countries. So I see no fallacy in this second example.

answered on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2021 11:45:19 AM by Bo Bennett, PhD

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Jordan Pine writes:

Thanks, Dr. Bo. I'd like to see a few more answers before I propose my own answer.

posted on Tuesday, Mar 23, 2021 12:08:33 PM
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Citizen Irrelevant writes:
[To Jordan Pine]

I am glad to see this common application / use for spotting fallacies verbalized, Jordan.  I have been applying what we learn from each other, and Dr. Bo, of course, in this manner for a couple of years now.

[ login to reply ] posted on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2021 11:29:20 AM
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Example #1: For it to be a hate crime it would need to be proven that it was directed at Asians. As far as I now that has not been done.

Example #2 Donald Trump could have been using those terms because of where it came from. You still would have to prove he meant it in an racist way.

 

answered on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2021 09:20:15 AM by richard smith

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Jordan Pine writes:

Good points. However, are these logical fallacies or just examples of poor reasoning? Do you see any logical fallacies otherwise?

I have two in mind.

posted on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2021 03:21:10 PM
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richard smith writes:

I am not sure if there is any fallacies their but I seeĀ  both as being based on assumptions that may or may not be true. Is there a fallacy for being based on an assumption?

posted on Wednesday, Mar 24, 2021 04:59:14 PM
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Jordan Pine writes:
[To richard smith]

Not to my knowledge. Identifying assumptions in place of facts would be part of the process of examining the premises of an argument. For instance, a syllogism can be logically valid while, at the same time, one or both of its premises are specious or outright false.

As to this topic: Check out my answer to my own question, and let me know what you think!

[ login to reply ] posted on Thursday, Mar 25, 2021 11:51:11 AM
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Arlo writes:
[To richard smith]

Isn't much of our deductive logic (and more generally, much of scientific investigation) "based on assumptions that may or may not be true"?  Hypothetical syllogisms that take the form "IF X, then Y" include the inherent possibility that X may (or may not) be true ... otherwise, it would be "Because X, therefore Y".

If all assumptions are in fact true and the logic is unflawed, then the conclusion can be relied upon.

If one or more assumptions is not true and/or the logic is flawed, then the conclusion should be suspect -- not necessarily wrong, but certainly not demonstrated through the argument to be correct.

I don't see basing an argument on an assumption that may or may not be true as faulty logic.  The faulty logic would appear if one were to fail to take all conditions as fact rather than an assumption or if one acted as if all assumptions were true and simply accepted the conclusion as presented without further investigation.

[ login to reply ] posted on Thursday, Mar 25, 2021 02:31:58 PM