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The first one is ignoratio elenchi. No one suggested that statistics were racist (they can't be), but they can be used in a racist manner to make arguments in favour of racist beliefs. However, even this wasn't necessarily the point of person 2; they were explaining how the stats were wrong. The second example: first, note the misleading language (appeal to emotion). It's in the snuck premise "liberals believe killing babies is morally correct". What liberals actually support is abortion, which applies to foetuses. A baby could be anything between an embryo and a live new-born, but you'd be hard-pressed to find liberals who support "killing" the latter. So this isn't even a valid representation of what liberals believe, making it not only a desperate emotional appeal, but also a strawman fallacy. The use of "all" makes it even more fallacious, because there is no way to possibly know that (amazing familiarity). Next, P1 claims that, while not "all" liberals do, "most" do, making the statement correct. This is still baseless (see my above analysis; pretty much no one supports just 'killing babies'). Also, "all" kinda means "all". If you're admitting that it's "most" instead, you're admitting your original statement was wrong. Thus, we have a non sequitur. |
answered on Monday, May 03, 2021 03:20:14 AM by TrappedPrior (RotE) | |
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P1: All liberals believe that killing babies is morally correct. P2: On the instance of morality, not all liberals believe that, it is a sweeping generalization. P3: Sure not all liberal believe that, but most liberals do, making my original statement correct. Looks like moving the goal post maybe?.....or ad hoc rescue??
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answered on Sunday, May 02, 2021 10:47:11 PM by skips777 | |
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