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Is Neil DeGrasse Tyson Correct Regarding the Origin of Life?Astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson says the following in the television series "Cosmos": Question: If either number one or number two above are true and correct, then how could number three be true and correct? And, even if number one and number two are both incorrect, how could anyone living on earth have any way of either knowing or confirming that number three is true and correct? |
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asked on Monday, Feb 10, 2020 02:01:20 PM by Richard Aberdeen | |||||||||||||
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The points by Tyson come from the first year of the television series Cosmos. I took notes at one time while re-reviewing three different segments of the first year, but I can't go back and do that all over again because I neither have the patience or the time. I can assure you that Tyson said in one video segment that science doesn't know how, when, where or why life first came into existence. This is correct and, many of his peers agree with him. Obviously if life existed prior to our own sun and solar system, then human science won't likely ever know how, when, where or why life first came into existence. Tyson also presents a rather grandiose theory of how life "might" have came to be, which I kind of like and have no quarrel with, even though his theory can neither be proven or disproven. Unfortunately, in a third segment, Tyson then quotes virtually verbatim the standard textbook mythology we've been taught since high school, stating that life came about by a series of random, totally by chance natural processes. Tyson, like my college biology textbook, didn't bother to provide any supporting evidence, rhyme or reason as to either how science would know this or, why anyone with an elementary school education would bother to invent such baseless superstition. Obviously, if scientists don't know how, when, where or why life first came to be, then science doesn't know that life came about by a series of unguided totally by chance processes. This is like telling a police officer, I didn't see anyone rob the bank, but I'm certain that some African-American person robbed it. It not only wouldn't hold up in any legitimate court of law, it doesn't even make any rational sense. |
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answered on Tuesday, Feb 11, 2020 01:53:37 PM by Richard Aberdeen | |||||||
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"Astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson says the following in the television series "Cosmos": "1. Science doesn't know either how or when life first came into existence." (Thats being honest and is true. The "how" is the exact steps nature took, the "when" is the exact time. Saying science doesn't know how or when doesn't mean science knows noting on the topic. Science knows a lot on the topic from studying life and its environment. So, nothing wrong with this premise except for you taking it out of context.)
It seems to me that you might have some underlining cognitive biases that distorts your perceptions of certain scientific fields of study like evolution and abiogenesis. These biases can cause your mind to take science out of context to cast doubt on science so that you can avoid cognitive dissonance while trying to simultaneously hold onto your religious beliefs/faith. |
answered on Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 01:15:14 PM by Jason Mathias | |
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Others have pointed out that Tyson did not say those three things. That might be enough to end the discussion, which arose from a question that on its own merits simply consists of three statements that are frequently made. Tyson's naming merely suggests that the statements need to be considered because he's smart and well-known. Suppose the three statements were made by "Jean", who is unknown except for the statements. Now, the personality, authority, in/out of specialty, extraneous issues are off the table. How then would they be reviewed? 1. True 2. True ("may have") 3. Unknown truth, not a consequence of 1 or 2, and an argument from ignorance (misusing 1 imo) Speculation 3 might be a starting point, a basis for proposed hypotheses, but as presented above seems a conclusion that's simply unsupported by prior argument.
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answered on Sunday, Mar 29, 2020 11:00:34 AM by DrBill | |
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– observe the natural universe Obviously, Neil DeGrasse Tyson doesn't go by these six steps. He just pulls the foundation for his theory of evolution out of a black hole rabbit's hat, stating without providing a shred of verifiable testable supporting evidence, that life came about by a series of random blind "totally by chance" natural processes. There is no test that verifies such a position and, it isn't possible to conduct any such test, if science doesn't know how, when, where, or why life began. If life began prior to our own sun and solar system, obviously it remains impossible for anyone living on earth to scientifically verify how life came into existence. To claim that science doesn't know how life came to be and then, to turn around and claim that life came about by a series of random blind "totally by chance" processes, represents nothing but a hypocritical mythology having no foundation in evidence. Embracing such mythology is just embracing a blind faith religion without foundation in evidence. Apparently, certain responders here think it is perfectly okay when an atheistic scientist totally contradicts himself, but woe unto anyone who suggests the obvious, that the universe is a result of deliberate conception, design and creation. Where is your evidence that motion can arise from no motion, energy from no energy, light from no light, life from no life, intelligence from no intelligence? Where is your evidence that mathematics can randomly magically exist unto itself, along with the rest of the grand design universal reality? I'd love to see Tyson and Richard Dawkins go up against Isaac Newton in a debate, who very strongly believed in God and, try to convince Newton that a re-action can occur without any Primary Action. Socrates would have a field day with such obvious self-contradictory nonsense. Even if a re-action could possibly occur without any Primary Action (which contradicts the basic laws of physics and all of the known scientific evidence), it sure as hell cannot be scientifically tested and verified. In order to do that, one would have to crawl outside of the universe and travel back in time prior to the big bang. There is no evidence that the big bang magically went boom and, that the entire universe magically came into existence, filled with magically existing beings engaging in magically existing advanced mathematics, all just magically appearing out of nowhere from nothing. This is the bottom-line of all agnostic and atheistic nonsense. Atheism is just a blind faith religion, having no foundation in evidence. |
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answered on Thursday, Feb 13, 2020 05:06:06 PM by Richard Aberdeen | ||||||||||||||
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