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Everyday Irrationality: "Don't tell me what to do!"

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Original Question

Welcome to Everyday Irrationality, where I basically strawman some poor asshole play out hypothetical real-life convos in my head, then bring them onto here.


You've all encountered this before.


Hadley: You know, you should use your platform to promote inclusion rather than stirring up hate. Last week, you posted a joke about "attack helicopters", which, although you may think is funny, is actually super hurtful to trans people by means of belittling and invalidating their identity. Do better.


Jonas: It's my social media page, so I'll use it how I want. Don't tell me what to do!


Lolita: You say she shouldn't tell you what to do, yet, you just told her what to do. So, two things. First, you're a hypocrite. Secondly, she's right, and you really need to put your man-sized ego aside and give a woman's advice a try.


In particular, Lolita's statement is of interest. Jonas said "don't tell me what to do", and she counters, "you're telling her what to do".


When people do this, are they making a valid point? Or is this Equivocation?

Answers

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I think there is a substantive difference between telling someone what to do and telling someone not to do something to you . Telling someone what to do interferes with their personal autonomy, which is what one is likely concerned about. When someone is told what to do, someone is attempting to influence/control that persons autonomy. So "don't tell me what to do" seems to be a fair response.


I think it can also be argued that Lolita is guilty of Whataboutism , although I really don't like that defense much :) If Jonas was in a position of authority over Hadley, it could be perfectly justified for Hadley not to tell Jonas what to do by for Jonas to tell Hadley what to do.

Jonas actually told her what not to do. Ideally he would do better to say you have no authority to tell me what to do. 


I'm not sure if attack helicopters actually does belittle trans people, or whether that's a joke (transport?), but unless the platform was provided for the purpose of promoting inclusion, Jonas is under no such obligation. 


Lolita needs to take her head in both hands and wobble it. And cut out the sexism. 

"Jonas: It's my social media page, so I'll use it how I want. Don't tell me what to do!"


"Lolita: You say she shouldn't tell you what to do, yet, you just told her what to do. So, two things. First, you're a hypocrite."


I think Jonas is making the claim that since its their page, they can do what they want on it because they have ownership over it whereas Lolita is just a guest there. So, it has to do with property rights and since Lolita is equating the two as being equal it might be a False Equivalence .

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