Several common arguments from the protests
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Original Question
After the protests kicked off, there have been a lot of discussion on what to do with the issues that plague the US, and some of them I found a bit... dubious. Especially when it comes to police reform, police abolition/divestment, ways of protesting and farcial attacks on BLM itself for COVID 19.
Here is common argument number 1 (police abolition):
X: Police and the concept of policing is inherently violent, broken and systematically rotten. It cannot be ever be fixed.
Y: We believe that police is inherently violent and the recent unrest is caused by police. Therefore, to remove the violence, we must abolish the police entirely.
Z: If we abolish tbe police as a concept entirely, the world will become more peaceful because state endorsed violence given to cops will be no more.
Argument 2 (protesters):
X: Peaceful protesters dont carry masks, backpacks, water bottles or other riot gear to protests. They dont loot either.
Y: If they brought these items, or weapons such as a crowbar or other things. They are not a protester, they are criminals looking for oppotunity.
Argument 3 (BLM and COVID)
X: We know that big crowds are triggers for a second wave for COVID 19.
Y: Black Lives Matter has tens of thousands of people marching in the streets.
Z: Therefore, Black Lives Matter will be to blame for a second wave of COVID-19.
And finally, argument 4 (attacks on protests because covid):
Person 1: These BLM protests are bad for me and everyone else.
Person 2: Why?
Person 1: Because they broke the rules and I didn't! They are disrespeting everyone who followed the rules and sacrified so much during these times? Theyre selfish, reckless and self indulgent!
Person 2: Clearly, they believe that their right to value their human lives and rights outweighs the risk of catching the virus? That may be why they go out and protest.
Person 1: I dont care, they are still committing a double standard and they are all bad.
Phew, long one. Any fallacies?
Answers
1X: Police and the concept of policing is inherently violent, broken and systematically rotten. It cannot be ever be fixed.
Opinion.
Y: We believe that police is inherently violent and the recent unrest is caused by police. Therefore, to remove the violence, we must abolish the police entirely.
Non Sequitur. There could be other ways to remove the violence without removing the police.
Z: If we abolish the police as a concept entirely, the world will become more peaceful because state endorsed violence given to cops will be no more.
Unsupported claim. Not looking at the side effects of removing police.
X: Peaceful protesters dont carry masks, backpacks, water bottles or other riot gear to protests. They dont loot either.
Opinion? Sound like this is how the person is defining "peaceful protesters."
Y: If they brought these items, or weapons such as a crowbar or other things. They are not a protester, they are criminals looking for opportunity.
Again, unsupported claim.
X: We know that big crowds are triggers for a second wave for COVID 19.
Y: Black Lives Matter has tens of thousands of people marching in the streets.
Z: Therefore, Black Lives Matter will be to blame for a second wave of COVID-19.
A couple of things wrong with this. 1) The first premise is an example of Alleged Certainty . No, we don't know that. Big crowds are triggers for the spread of COVID, but not "second wave." 2) The conclusion is an example of the Oversimplified Cause Fallacy .
The last exchange is just an (ignorant) opinion with some absolutisms and extreme views.
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