What kind of fallacy is "Try explaining this to victim's parents"
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Original Question
A: X is not criminally liable for what he did because [something]
B: Try to explain this to victim's relatives!
I suspect this is kind of an Appeal to Emotion but I wonder if it is a specific subtype or something else. :)
Thank you in advance!
Answers
5I am not sure if I would be so quick to call "fallacy". But to illustrate how this can easily become a fallacy, consider this dialogue:
Person 1: Timmy accidentally pushed Sally off the cliff—he does not deserve to go to prison for life.
Person 2: Try telling that to Sally's parents!
Person 1: Are you suggesting because Sally's parents have an irrational desire for retribution based on what is clearly a highly emotionally-charged situation for them, that Timmy is criminally culpable?
Person 2: Yes.
Then clearly person 2 is engaged in fallacious reasoning, although, one might argue that person 2 is not appealing to emotion, but they are committing a Non Sequitur , or coming to a conclusion that does not follow from the premises (i.e., because Sally's parents are emotional, then Timmy is guilty).
Instead of "yes," if person 2 responded "No, I am just saying that people who are highly emotional don't usually see things rationally," then no fallacy would be committed
Person 1: Timmy accidentally pushed Sally off the cliff, hence he did not committed a crime because he had no intent (and only acts committed under particular state of mind are crimes).
Person 2: Try telling that to Sally's parents!
Person 1: Sally's parents' emotions about the person who caused Sally's death are irrelevant for whether he had the intent to do it and hence - whether he is guilty for committing a crime or not.
So I am referring to a case where Person 1 is pointing out some legitimate reason for someone to be excused for hers/his actions while Person 2's counterargument against that is that the excusing circumstances are not actually excusing because the relatives of those affected wouldn't understand or agree and would want a revenge.
Person #1: The convicted-by-jury gunman, of killing 20 innocent people doesn’t deserve the death penalty, because by definition, he had to have been mentally ill (i.e., insane) to do such a thing.
Person #2 - Try telling that to the victims families.
Person #1 - are you suggesting because the victims’ families have an irrational desire for retribution based on what is clearly a highly emotionally-charged situation for them, that the gunman deserves the death penalty ?
Person #2 – Yes, except their desire is for Justice and is completely rational!
I submit this example a. preserves the OP’s postulate “Try telling that to the victims’ families” and b. avoids the non-sequitur & fallacy, by substituting a rational view, reflecting societal values, for the purely emotional (& irrational) reaction by Person #2 in Bo’s example. Thus, I think Bo is right; this postulate need not constitute a fallacy in all cases.
(Note: for clarity, it is given that the gunman was judged mentally competent while committing the act by the convicting jury.)
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